Donald Trump surrogate Kayleigh McEnany suggested on Thursday that the recent terrorist attacks in Orlando and San Bernardino could have been prevented if the Obama administration had been willing to use waterboarding and put “someone in a bit of discomfort to extract information.” On CNN’s New Day, McEnany was asked to explain Trump’s call to “bring back waterboarding” and “a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding.” “I think that’s all consistent,” McEnany replied. “He was talking about expanding the law the same way the Bush administration did.”

Asked to elaborate on how the process would work, McEnany stated that “first of all, it would all work on a voluntary basis. Basically, we would draw up a standardized agreement, a contract if you will, which all Muslim immigrants who want to come into the United States would be required to sign on a voluntary basis. So, no pressure or anything. But, the agreement would be exclusive in that failure to sign would mean a permanent ban on entering the country. So, the decision would totally and completely be in the immigrants’ hands.”

“But, if they wouldn’t be allowed to enter unless they sign the so-called agreement, wouldn’t that mean exactly that they were being pressured into signing?” the hosts asked. The surrogate responded, “Well, no, because, like I said, the decision and consequences would be totally up to them. Nobody would tell them what to do, they would be given time to decide and act accordingly. I mean, we’re not in the Dark Ages. We’re a civilized country. We’re tough, but we’re civilized.”

“And what would this alleged agreement consist of?” another host inquired. “That’s the fun part, actually. By signing the agreement, the immigrants would, of sound body and mind, and a completely free will, agree to be subjected to waterboarding, if and only if, at some point during their stay in the United States they become suspects in a terrorism-related case. The circumstances of what would be considered terrorism-related cases would be precisely determined at a later point, but that’s the bottom line,” McEnany said almost enthusiastically.

“Because,” she continued to the surprise of everybody in the studio, “that’s the perfect set up for us. Basically, if they put their signature on the dotted line, that is, assuming they actually know how to sign their name and not use an “X” mark instead, we basically have the liberty to use waterboarding at any given time as a fully legal interrogation technique, should the suspicion arise at any point that they are connected either to ISIS, Boko Haram or any other terrorist organization. The information that we could potentially extract that way would be invaluable, and best of all, we would be able to put a stop to these lone-wolf terrorist attacks on American soil.”

“And the worst-case scenario?” she was asked again. “That’s also a win-win situation for us,” McEnany replied. “If the immigrants are afraid of being discovered or if they just have a fear of waterboarding, they can just stay in their own countries. We certainly don’t need more of them here, so voluntary waterboarding agreements, or VWAs, as we’re calling them, could also potentially be used as a deterrent against unwanted immigrants. I’m telling you, it’s a flawless plan.”